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Post by jeff02 on Feb 11, 2009 17:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by jeff02 on Feb 11, 2009 18:19:48 GMT -5
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Post by Bill Holland on Feb 11, 2009 18:58:56 GMT -5
You know, it is confusing, to the point that I wish to not buy one.
Maybe I will get an OA setup and learn the real way to do it.
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Post by jeff02 on Feb 11, 2009 19:02:51 GMT -5
Smith, got one!
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Post by daveb1 on Feb 12, 2009 16:39:08 GMT -5
Jeff which one did you get and where.
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Post by jeff02 on Feb 12, 2009 18:08:50 GMT -5
Smith, Got one
This comment was in response to Bills post, I got this set 20 years ago after I got out of college, I don’t care to use it for Silver Solder because you can Very easily burn the copper, Its used for Cutting and Welding of steel not soldering, not to say you can’t solder with it you need to be very careful. Plus it’s very expensive to fill up those tanks.
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Post by Ed Hume on Feb 12, 2009 20:04:14 GMT -5
Jeff, Your Smith append made me think that you bought a torch - end of question. The Pro 88 system is what you want - handle, regulator, neck, 2943 nozzle for boiler work, and then smaller nozzle(s) for usual work maybe a 2941 and a 3940. Why don't you use the Contact Us page on the Sievert site and ask them about dealers.
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Post by waumbek09 on Feb 12, 2009 21:11:23 GMT -5
O.K., I sent off an email to the Sievert US folks and will post a reply when I get one. Feeling I had after contacting a longtime supplier to our hobby was that it might be best to find another supplier (and I mean this gently and respectfully) so perhaps Sievert will suggest one. I am beginning to feel about Sievert stuff the way an old adage goes about poker: if you've been playing for 20 minutes and you don't know who the mark is, it's you! Cheers, Charles Morrill  |
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Post by Dan Rowe on Feb 13, 2009 9:58:14 GMT -5
You know, it is confusing, to the point that I wish to not buy one. Maybe I will get an OA setup and learn the real way to do it. Bill, this went right past me because I did not get the OA reference DOH! Oxyacetylene can be used no doubt about it. It was ALL that we had on the ships, so I had to learn to use it. I will say this I have never done copper or brass silver solder with OA with out a lot of anxiety. If you are having a good day all will go well, but there are days that do not go well at all and at home I would have stepped away from the bench. I did not have that option at sea. I plan to get a Sievert torch soon to give my nerves a break. It is too easy to ruin the work with OA and if you are getting paid for the day that is a small comfort, but it is still a waist of time and Company money. This will really sting with your own metal in your own shop. I spent over 25 years in the black gang on ships so my advice is based on a lot of experience. Dan |
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Post by Russells on Feb 13, 2009 12:51:17 GMT -5
I went with a Victor TurboTorch kit with T4, and T6 tips. I got it NEW on Ebay for much less than the Sievert, and it works every bit as well. I finished my boiler and hydro tested with no leaks at 250 PSI.
You can also get one from MSC for a little more money.
Russells
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Post by Ed Hume on Feb 13, 2009 13:34:56 GMT -5
Russells,
Did you use propane with the T-6 tip for the boiler? I am amazed you could do the job - that seems way underpowered compared to the Sievert 2943 nozzle with about 150,000 BTU/hr. Did you also use a Harbor Freight $20 flame thrower? Did you use mapp gas?
Do you have a BTU spec on the T-6 with propane? That looks like a nice torch, a lot like one I have from Goss. My Goss is underpowered for boiler work and I did have to buy a second larger torch. There are other torches out there than the Sievert but only one that can throw 150,000 BTU/hour can be recommended by me.
Ed
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Post by Dan Rowe on Feb 13, 2009 15:38:08 GMT -5
Ed, It looks like the T-6 tip is for propane or mapp gas which burns about 10% hotter. I did not find the BTU specs. but here are the specs. for Turbo Torches for several gases vs tube size and hard or soft solder. www.stoodyind.com/Catalogs/FISC/current/05catpg133.pdfDan |
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Post by Dan Rowe on Feb 13, 2009 16:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by waumbek09 on Feb 13, 2009 17:08:54 GMT -5
Just received a reply from Sievert USA. I'll try to post it: Hello Mr. Morrill- Thanks for your interest in Sievert brand products! We would be more than happy to sell to you direct, we accept Visa or MasterCard or pre-payment by check. Listed below you will find the part numbers and pricing of products commonly used by steam locomotive hobbyist. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Part # Price Description 2943-02 $22.78 Nozzle 2941-02 $26.33 Nozzle 3940-02 $21.30 Nozzle 3488-47 $73.35 Pro88 Handle 3062-93 $60.60 Regulator 3506-01 $38.27 30" Necktube 3507-01 $34.62 20" Necktube 3509-01 $19.59 7 " Necktube 3510-01 $29.16 14" Necktube 3511-01 $15.28 3 " Necktube Thanks! Charissa A. Williams Customer Service Manager Sievert Industries, Inc. Phone: 815-639-1319 Fax: 815-639-1320 www.sievertindustries.comSo, if you want to go Sievert, this seems to be the answer. Cheers, Charles Morrill |
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Post by jeff02 on Feb 13, 2009 18:09:52 GMT -5
Thanks for doing the work, I should have done a couple of days ago. I guess your mind does start to go after 40.
I will order from Sievert!
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