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Post by pennsy on Jan 15, 2005 20:09:59 GMT -5
Hi Bill,
We have several foundrys in the area that we use. We have one foundry that does aluminum castings only and five foundrys that will work in cast iron or cast steel. We will discuss with you the procedure of making patterns when your ready to move on. All of our locomotives are built with steel and the only castings are the wheels and couplers and some of the domes.
As you know we also work with fiberglass castings,most of which is for the rolling stock. There again we do all the pattern making. Live Steam is a great hobby and you can really do whatever you wish. Its all in one hands.
Jack
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Post by Bill Holland on Jan 15, 2005 20:38:44 GMT -5
Thank you Jack, my mind races so quick, theres just so many locomotives I want to do. Next one going to be 3/4" scale as well. Maybe a NKP 2-8-4 or perhaps a Pennsy locomotive like a M1B. Think I will use cast wheels next time for the tender and locomotive. You guys fabricate the cylinders eh?
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Post by pennsy on Jan 15, 2005 21:41:29 GMT -5
Yes sir Bill,
Everything is fabricated,clynders,trailing trucks,etc. Thats the only way to go. Now thats my opinion so maby someone else would do it with making a pattern and have casting made. The time making the pattern can be spent building the piece that you want and that cuts your building time for that piece in half. If you are going to make more than one then the patterns are the way to go but in my case only one was to built.
I think one is enough so you can move on to something else such as rolling stock or the railroad you have in the backyard and believe the RR in the backyard takes a lot of maintance and up keep.
I know of fellow live steamer having two and three locomotives and that is all thay have,no cars no railroad in the backyard so I guess that is fine for them but not this steamer. I have yet to see one man operate two or three locomotives at one time.
My time is spent building the fiberglass passenger cars and having a railroad in the backyard that needs to be attended to takes up all of my time and really im quite satisfied and content to take care of these projects. To each his own way of doing things Bill and supporting them for doing it their way. I never thought it best to try and tell a person to do a project a certain way but have them come up with ther own method of doing a project. Helpful hints along the way but not to interfere therefore a project done by a person is always a lot of personal safisfaction.
Sorry Bill for the lecture. Yes My Pennsy locomotive which is a M1b No.6750 is in the last photo that I posted and the locomotive in the rear of that photo is a Pennsy I1 2-10-0.
This is a great medium to be involved with and I really appreciate having the opportunity to participate.
Thank You
Jack
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Post by andy pullen on Jan 18, 2005 12:49:21 GMT -5
Hi Jack,
Don't forget those 4 Decapods (Hippos) that Wayne's doing in 1" scale....
I've got an E-6 started in 3/4" scale and I have some prints for the C-1 0-8-0. I'm thinking about doing an E-6 in 1" scale just so I can run at Sherman's Valley, too....Good display models for the museum annex...
But, I will endure the teasing about my Reading A-5a just as Reed K. does. Just kidding...
This hobby is just too much fun...And the people are great!
Bill,
I'm doing some patterns for N&W A class drivers in 1.6" scale at the moment. I've gotten alot of information in book form from Lindsay Publications. (www.lindsaybks.com ) They have several books on patternmaking and many more on foundry work.
And there is an Amish foundry just east of Lancaster, PA. I think the name is Cattail Foundry.
Andy Pullen
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Post by pkastagehand on Jan 18, 2005 12:49:59 GMT -5
Is there more than one Rail Road museum in Altoona? I visited one a few years back but can't remember the name. Also went out to Horseshoe Curve.
Several of the pictures mentioned ILS. Is that Illinois Live Steamers? I've thought of visiting there home tracks since they are only a couple hours or so from SW Michigan.
Paul
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Post by andy pullen on Jan 18, 2005 14:16:42 GMT -5
Hi Paul,
No, it's the Independent Live Steamers. We're mainly in the state of Pennsylvania. Personally, I'm from Maryland. But, we'll operate where ever there's a track....We do operate at a track or 2 in Michigan. At least some of our members do. I've been invited to attend the "rambles" as they're called. It's usually a 12 or 14 day trip in Michigan and Ohio.
There's the Railroaders Memorial Museum in Altoona and there is a museum at the Curve.
Andy
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Post by pennsy on Jan 18, 2005 15:09:51 GMT -5
Hi Paul and Andy,
Andy is right Paul,there is only one museum in the city of Altoona,one at the curve also. The other museum in the local area and not far from Altoona is the historical Allegheny Portage Railroad located in the Cresson,Pa. area. The Allegheny Portage Railroad ran over the mountain from Hollidaysburg,Pa. to Johnstown,Pa. The next stop on the Allegheny Portage west is the Staple Bend Tunnel located several miles west of Mineral Point,Pa. noted for being the first RR tunnel in the United States running parallel with the main line of the NS,The old Pennsylvania RR. and then into the Johnstown area. The ILS is a freelance club with members particicipating in live steam events conducted buy the club. There are no officers or dues related to the organization. Everybody is free to do as thay wish and build whatever thay like and inturn share their expertise and knowledge with the group. As you have noticed in the photographs most of the fellows build and are building Pennsy locomotives but there are quite a few that build locomotives that were part of a different railroad and that is great also. The bottom line is that steam is steam reguardless of what stack it comes from and that makes it very interesting.
Jack
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Post by pennsy on Jan 18, 2005 16:43:58 GMT -5
Sorry Andy,
I missed your reply earlier today #18. Ya you know I just screwed up when I listed the locomotives that are being built and I didn't say anything about the tons of 1" scale locomotives that the ILS has in its roster,SORRY. You know that is a story in its self to show and tell of that equiptment. As you well know when I mean tons there is a lot of locomotives and rolling stock owned buy the membership. Reed always did take a ribbing but you know he derserved it,HA. The roster was posted last year in one of the Live Steam Issues but If I remember right I really don't think that roster was up to date also. I didn't relieze you were interested in the N&W Class A Locomotive and thinking about building it. Its a honey. My son was interested in doing the N&W J but I talked him out of it because I would have had to do all the drawings and probably some of the work and I didn't really have the time to get into that project so I convinced him to do the PRR H10 which Mark Blaisdell has all the drawing made up for. He did a heck of a lot leg work and on site measuring on the real locomotive at the Strasburg Museum. You know Andy that the membership is scattered across the country from north to south and east to west and thats a fact. I felt that I had to respond to your earlier comment,Thanks Andy for trying to set the record straight.
Jack
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Post by andy pullen on Jan 19, 2005 7:44:19 GMT -5
Hi Jack,
Don't worry about it...And you're welcome. I was at Wayne and Don's RR a year or so ago and was amazed by the number of locomotives going together at the same time. The article in LIVE STEAM a few years ago is what prompted me to contact Wayne.
The N-2's will be on air this spring according to Wayne and the boilers won't be far behind. I'll be visiting him this winter or spring sometime.
As to the J; tell your son that I've got plans to build one of those too and if he wants to collaborate to let me know. As you probably know, I worked on the 1218 and the 611 when they were running in the '80s and '90s. It may take a while to get started, but I'm going to do it.
Andy
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Post by pkastagehand on Jan 19, 2005 10:03:24 GMT -5
I spend a little time in PA every summer over near Port Roayl/Mexico (Juniata County). Sometimes a week in May too. Any activities (steam) scheduled for middle or so of May and the two weeks starting right around the end of July and into August? (Jul29 or 30 to around Aug12-13?)
Visited a fellow who is building a railroad in his yard near Ickesburg last summer. (7.5)
I am (slowly) working on the Kozo A3.
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Post by pennsy on Jan 19, 2005 10:18:28 GMT -5
Andy,
My son is going to stick with the PRR H10. We have finished the cad for the frame so it can be cut out on a water jet machine. I know that the H will be a big jump for him and that the N&W J would be great but time is the factor and I'am not getting any younger and have a plate full in my own backyard. Bottom line to many projects here in our shop. With getting the passenger cars of the ground and the RR maintaince to do and also a rebuild on the 202ft long trestle,were full. Thanks for the offer Andy but we'll pass for know. Maby in the next life time,HA. I have noticed that something is wrong with this site and the views on this subject is not right because it was in the 250s plus yesterday and now is down to almost nothing,I wonder why ? By the way we have gotton a lot of prints from the Roanoke museum or the arhives and have given it a lot of consideration as to which way we were going to go with a locomotive building program and we decided to do the H due to his inexperance in machine work and with all the drawing for the H done in 1.6 scale felt it would be much easer for him to handle.
latter
Jack
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Post by andy pullen on Jan 19, 2005 12:39:31 GMT -5
Hi Jack, I'm not starting the J any time soon. I just thought he would be interested in the future.....I would be happy to take those prints you have off your hands. Let me know what you want for them. You're right the PRR H-10 would be a simpler locomotive along with all the other stuff you're into... Paul and Decapod if you're "listening", Look me up in the "Who I am" thread and click on my name. My profile will come up with my home email address. I can't seem to login to this board which is why I'm listed as a guest. The next time you're in central Pennsylvania; we could meet up. Baltimore is about 3 1/2 hours from Altoona. You'd be more than welcome to visit the Cals track there. www.calslivesteam.org is the web address. We do have an elevated track. About 1200 feet long. The North Eastern Ohio Live Steamers are building an elevated track at their facility. And, there's the track in Tonawanda Creek, New York. (Near Niagara Falls) Andy Pullen
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Post by pennsy on Jan 20, 2005 19:42:06 GMT -5
Sorry pkastqehand,
I missed your reply and question on the 19th.
The fellow at Ickesburg,Pa. is one of our ILS members. He and I are partners in the fiberglass Pennsy passenger cars. The railroad is going to be a very nice road to run on and thay are building the RR is steps and making progress. I will check with the Ickesburg RR tycoon and check to see if he is planning an event for around the times you will be visiting the area and let you know of his run schedule. I'am also certain that when winter breaks and we get into spring the RR will be running on the weekends.
Jack
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Post by pkastagehand on Jan 21, 2005 17:14:26 GMT -5
I believe you are the gentleman that directed me to him last year and I visited him last summer.
Thanks,
Paul
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Post by locodan5416 on Mar 16, 2005 11:27:03 GMT -5
Well, maybe I should rename this psot for N&W power. I am interested in building a N&W J. I do not want to build it in 1.6" or 1.5" or whatever is more "correct", I plan on building one in 3/4" scale. The only dimensions of the locomotive I have are from The Model Railroader Steam Cyclopedia. I plan on drawing(autoCAD 2000i) the entire locomotive before I build a single part, and juggling the design work with building the A3, and schoolwork(freshman, mechanical engineering major). All help is requested/welcome. ~dan
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