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Post by 4444 on Mar 2, 2005 14:23:00 GMT -5
Can anyone enlighten me if any of the Train Shed Cyclopedia produced (i.e. numbered series) have PRR Steam Locomotive diagrams? I seen several of them have been made, and index would be nice but I can't find one?
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Post by andy pullen on Mar 3, 2005 7:26:10 GMT -5
The 1912, 1914, 1916, and 1930 Trainshed Cyclopedias have some Pennsy stuff in them.
If you want detailed drawings; the actual 1930 edition from Simmons Boardman has a TON of Pennsy drawings in it. The C-1, the M-1, the I-1 and several others are well represented. Plus assorted other components.
What do you need?
Andy Pullen
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Post by 4444 on Mar 3, 2005 8:35:58 GMT -5
Well I've seen several Train Shed books on EBAY, but there are so many. I've seen the Locomotive Cyclopedias as well, but can't find a detailed index on the 1970's era Train Shed books.
I'm looking for detailed Pennsy steam drawings.
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Post by andy pullen on Mar 3, 2005 9:27:38 GMT -5
There's enough info in the 1930 Cyclopedia to build an M-1 from the rails up. Complete frame drawings, boiler and guite a few of the accessories.
I don't know of an index for the Train Shed series which was actually a reprint of the Locomotive Cyclopedia or older Locomotive Dictionary. You're probably better off getting the originals. Or find a library that has copies. Check out large university libraries. Where my wife is going to school; there are lots of rare books on the shelves...
If you can give me some specifics; I'll be happy to look for you. I have a couple connections with Pennsy prints, also. You can buy K-4 and K-5 drawings from Rogers Cooke.
Andy Pullen
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Post by 4444 on Mar 3, 2005 12:12:24 GMT -5
I've seen those Locomotive Cyclopedia books, very salty for the vintage ones.
What about Kalmbach's Model Railroader's Cyclopedia or the Abe Goodrich based Pennsylvania Railroad Locomotive Diagrams book?
Is there a reprint available from Simmons Boardman of the Cyclopedia?
Thank you!
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Post by andy pullen on Mar 3, 2005 14:20:58 GMT -5
I don't know about the Goodrich diagrams book. Never heard of it.
I think Kalmbach reprinted at least one of the cyclopedias. Not sure which one. If the book you are looking at is about 2+ inches thick and about 8 1/2"x11" page size; get it. It's the reprint. I don't think Simmonds Boardmann ever reprinted the old books. If they did; there could be a good sized market for them.
The Model Railroader cyclopedia isn't much for details. It's copies of HO scale drawings of locomotives from Model Railroader magazine. It's about an inch thick and the page size is about 11" x 17". I haven't found it to be very useful for live steam work. The Mainline Modeller cyclopedia is a little better (but, not much) with the drawings being in S scale.
I'm guessing that you're looking at the ebay listings. The 1938 edition is still priced fairly. I don't need it. I have a 1930 and a 1947 which covers most of what I'm interested in. The 1919 edition that's listed might be a good buy for you. I paid $200 for my 1930 edition and $125 for my 1947. Look around. Try used book shops. There are quite a few out there. Powell's books has one or 2 and Amazon has a 1922 edition on cd-rom.
Andy Pullen
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Post by 4444 on Mar 4, 2005 8:51:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. From what I've read the Goodrich book was originally a pocket book put together by a PRR employee Frederick "Abe" Goodrich. It was originally a pocket sized book with foldout diagrams for engine house employees to use for reference. I don't know much detail or how good the drawings are?
I'll check out those other sources you listed.
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Post by locodan5416 on May 6, 2005 8:27:38 GMT -5
in the Model Railroader Cyclopedia there is plenty of pennsy designs. The is a A-3, B-??, H-9, I-1, L-1, G-5, E-6, K-4, M-1a, and the duplexes.
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